Posted by: dogstail | November 6, 2007

How to get Maximum Mileage out of your Fiat Palio

This column is about how to get more mileage out of your Fiat Palio. Why Fiat Palio. Because I have one and I have perfected the art of getting Maximum mileage out of the machine. The tips here apply to most other Indian Cars also.

Fiat Palio in India is a much maligned model. To top its gas guzzling reputation the dealers and company left the customers in a lurch. Last year I read a news article in which the head of Fiat India was proudly announcing launch of online spare parts ordering system, wherein the dealers can go online and order the spares. They can also check a VOR (Vehicle Off Road) button and spares will be despatched on priority. The cynic in me didn’t fail to notice that why allow vehicles go off road in first place. It’s a shame that a vehicle of such calibre as Fiat Palio is allowed to remain off road as some Italian clowns didn’t have time to maintain adequate inventories. OK Fiat bashing is besides the point which can become a topic for another article.

You would like to ask how much mileage I am getting in a 1.2 ELPS (petrol) , model which is marketed in India. I am managing 15 Km/ Ltr on mixed roads, which includes bit of city, bit of open highway and bit of hilly roads with AC on 50% of the time. My Palio has been delivering this ever since I am running her. This is very much contrary to the general feedback that I have from people that they are barely able to get 10 or 12. Recently my father-in-law drove my car and he could barely manage 9.

What’s the secret? It is all very simple actually….. First you must know your vehicle.

Fiat is a very spirited vehicle and if you are bit heavy on the A pedal then the motor just revs on and begs to go faster.

You do not notice speed because of excellent noise damping, suspension and body work which does not shake or rattle as you rev up the vehicle, and you do not hear the engine until you have already burnt a lot of gas. Rarely any of us see the tachometer (which is the rev-counter).

 So if you desire higher mileage then you must learn & practice as I have done. These can be applied to almost all the vehicles.

1. Do other things that they routinely tell you. Maintain good air pressure, service regularly, keep all fluids topped up and use good petrol. If possible us ones with cleaning additives.

2. Learn to be one with the vehicle, which is a slightly Zen concept, but just learn to feel the vibrations. Cars communicate through subtle vibrations through steering, seat & pedals etc. It is always not possible to check on the meters regularly.

3. Starting up : DO not press the accelerator pedal while starting, which is a hangover for us middle aged drivers who have grown up on Carburetted engines. The fiat and most other vehicles have MPFI engines, which do not need pedal pressing while starting.

4. After putting the vehicle into first gear, let in the clutch gently, feel it bite the drive train. Press the A pedal gently only when the clutch is fully engaged. Most cars including fiat are sufficiently powerful to take on the vehicle load without accelerating in 1st gear.

5. Move into 2nd gear quickly at about 10 kmph

6. Move to 3rd at about 30 kmph

7. Move to 4th at about 40 kmph

8. Drive in 5th gear at all speeds beyond 50 kmph. Almost all cars including  the humble Maruti Alto, is able to pull from this speed upwards in 5th gear.

9. Off course you may not be the first one of the block on a red light, but that’s not our aim here.

10. Switch on the AC once you have driven for about 2 mins.

11. In heavy traffic I generally put my vehicle in 1st gear and allow it to coast with the pace of traffic without touching the accelerator. If required I coast in 2nd gear.Fial Palio can take this load with full AC. But it requires a gentle pedal if you are staring from stop with AC on.

12. While changing down shift from 5th to 4th only when you reach 40 kmph, 4th to 3rd at 30 kmph, 3rd to 2nd at 20 kmph, In a moving vehicle 1st gear would be required only if you are slower than 10 kmph.

13. While driving uphill increase your gear changing speeds by 5 kmph to take care of momentum loss due to gradient. Mostly it will be very difficult to pull any decent gradient in anything more than 3rd gear. DO not try to drive at 60 to 70 in 5th gear at a gradient in full throttle. The vehicle might climb but after burning huge quantity of gas. As a thumb rule if you need to open more than 20% of  the throttle then shift down into lower gear. The vehicle is very comfortable at these speeds without any unusual strain, vibrations or noise.

14. I have specifically not given any speed limits as the Palio and most vehicles easily reach above 80 kmph with barely 20% open throttle. But off course it is alway better to stick to the lower limit of the top gear speeds for best efficiency.

15. Someone might follow the speed  limits in each gear but still get less mileage. The key is acceleration. As a rule of thumb in normal driving do not open more than 20% of the throttle in normal driving. Allow the vehicle to gently accelerate to the indicated speed and then change up. Cruise with maximum 20% throttle, which is sufficient for 80 to 90 kmph on a decent road.

16. You can also open full and reach the indicated speeds faster but will also burn a lot of gas in the process.

17. Also there are other things such as anticipate your traffic and braking and drive accordingly. Don’t be surprised. Surprise leads to abrupt accelerations and braking which lead to excess fuel burnt.

18. For example if you are approaching dense traffic , let go of the pedal and coast to slower speeds and the drive on rather than running with throttle pressed till last moment, then slamming the brakes and again accelerating hard out of the traffic.

To sum it up the key is not low speeds, you can easily cruise at 80, 90 or 100 and still get good mileage provided you reach that speed gently without pushing too hard. In palio it is very difficult to know when you are pushing too hard because it is never too hard. You always want to go faster and the vehicle allows you to, without a hiccup or a stray sound. Key as I said before is to learn to listen with your hands and feet and your bums as you car tells you its time to shift up.

So drive gently and intelligently and see you mileage figures change. In the process you can also help cut on green house gasses emmision and pollution.


Responses

  1. Hey !:)

    Great post out there, I’m a proud owner of a ’07 Palio, and I was going to write an article about mileage, I probably would’ve written exactly what you’ve said !

    very professional and car mechanics literate;)

    thanks for enlightening people 😉

    drive carefully & have fun !!

  2. Thanks Mostafa, I am generally quite lazy and it takes some effort to type out something like this, but when it comes to standing up to my Palio, anything can be done.

    Happy Motoring

    • I feel the same way!

  3. Yeah 🙂

    Same here, I love my Palio 🙂

    see you around !

  4. I’m actually thinking of buying a Palio but I wanted to know about it gas mileage (so important now a days!) I’m actually between getting a Palio or a Hyundai Accent. If any one have any suggestions please write to my email add. samworkgt@aol.com

    • Dear Friend,

      Never ever by a Fiat car in your life. Say no no to Opel, Ford, Fiat & Indica Petrol. These cars are good for nothing. These cars will empty your pocket. If you buy any of these cars you may have to spend lot of money on maintenance, it is too difficult to get spare parts of these cars. I purchased a Fiat Palio 1.2 petrol through HT news paper advertisement, it was mentioned excellent car. I purchased for
      Rs. 54,000/- and i had to spent Rs. 54,000/- on this Fiat Palio. It was like a torture for me, as i used to cry, oh god why did i purchased this fiat. In my life i will never ever by a fiat car. I suggest you my friend please don’t by fiat, opel, ford or indica Petrol car in your life or you would be in trouble. You will lose your peace of mind.
      If you want to buy a used car, you can buy Maruti or Hyundai. Don’t go for any other car. God Bless You.

      • bull SH*t had my fiat palio 1.2 2000 mpi for 13 years only had to replace the clutch ones and 2 fuel injectors if you look after jour car and give it your attention it will last a life time

      • Ha ha ha good comedy. Am using fiat palio 1.2 elx for past three years. No problem for me. Nil maintainece. And spares also available easily in Chennai. After driving palio Marathi and Hyundai cars are like driving toy cars. Marathi Hyundai and all no quality in body. Palio has very strong body and safety.i love palio

  5. @ Samuel
    Hi Sam, Thanks for visiting my blog. Now Palio has 3 engines in the market, the 1.1 Ltr Petrol , 1.6 Ltr Petrol and 1.3 Ltr Diesel. Accent is a much bigger car with nearly 100 BHP engine. If Gas mileage is important you can go in for Palio 1.1 but that is tad underpowered, or getz petrol also might be good option. If fuel efficiency is your sole criterion then Wagon R or even Alto should be good bet.

    Frankly it all depends how much you want to spend initilally. Accent definitely will drink a lot more than Palio 1.1 or Palio 1.3 Multijet.Diesel.

    Hope this helps.

    • NEVER EVER BUY A FIAT PALIO or ANY OTHER MODEL

      FIAT FULL FORM IS—- FLOP ITALIAN AUTOMOBILE TECHONOLGY

      FIAT SHOULD SHUT DOWN.

      • it seems you have some bad experience with fiat. May be your choice of second hand car was in bad condition and you are fooled or cheated by the guy who sold the car.
        Believe me I have Palio sport for the last 2.5 years and have driven 30,000 KM, with out any issues than changing oil regularly. Also I vouch you, I never got mileage below 12.5 in city and short drives and got a maximum of 14.5 in long drives.
        When you buy a second hand car check and buy it and don’t blame the company for being a fooled.
        Fiat is an excellent car.

  6. […] You can read my older entry on Fiat Palio mileage HERE […]

  7. what about two wheelers????????????????????????????????????????ANy one out there to explain??????????????????????????????????????????????
    I have a great problem while in heavy traffic to mive my vehicel in first gear…But in second it’s very smooth to move without any difficulty….I am running Honda Shine 125cc……………………

  8. […] Ownership Report on Maruti Swift Diesel Its been some time since I have been active on the site, given my extremely lazy and laidback attitude to life and everything else.  Some time back I wrote a piece on comparison between Fiat Palio mjd and Maruti Swift Ldi/ Vdi, which has been very popular. After the analysis I then went and purchased a Maruti Swift Ldi in late Mar, 2008 based on the reasons that you can read here. […]

  9. Hi,

    This is really great. Thanks. I really needed this advice as my palio ELPS is giving 9 KMPH.

    • WHY DID YOU PURCHASE FIAT, YOU CANNOT EXPECT GOOD MILEAGE FROM FIAT

      • True mr venkatakrishnan, fiat is the worst car on road, I agree, I owned a palio 1.2 elx for the past 9 years, hardly run 16000 kms, it gave me trouble when I really started using it with clutch problems, and computer control ( I dont know what it is called) and spares are not available. I sold it for a song for which I had shelled out nearly five lacs in 2003.

  10. @ Rahul,
    Thanks for visiting the site. Hope you get the results do let me know.

  11. I follow all these points before driving my Palio 1.2. Elx and get a good mileage of say around 14 Kms per litre. Of course, with the AC the vehicle is sluggish in the city driving and this does irritates me and many a times i have just switched off the AC so that I could get a good feeling of driving my Palio.

  12. I am planning to buy a used Palio (1.2 ELX – March 2003 Model – White – 30000 Km ), which is in excellent condition at around 1.25 Lacs. What is your view on the deal. I test drove it and very much satisfied with Power, Safty and Comfort, but only worried for fuel efficiency before reading your advise.

    Thanks in advance.

    • FIAT PALIO 1.2 ELX 2003 MODEL RESALE VALUE SHOULD NOT BE MORE THAN
      RS. 30,000/-. IF YOU GET THIS SHIT CAR FOR RS. 30,000/- ALSO DON’T BUY THIS TENSION MACHINE. IT WILL GIVE YOU ONLY TENSION, WILL TAKE YOUR PEACE OF MIND. NEVER EVER BUY FIAT, FORD, OPEL AND INDICA PETROL.

      SAY A BIG NO NO TO FIAT.

      GO FOR MARUTI SUZUKI OR HYUNDAI SANTRO

      DON’T GO FOR ANY OTHER CAR.

      • Hi Venkat,

        i have been using a fiat palio nv 1.2 for the last 7 years. it has never given me any trouble. it still runs silently without any rattles. In a dense city traffic it gives me 10kmpl, outskirts 14-16 , which people call amazing. i do the regular checkups,drive in the right gear and keep my ears open for any change in sounds. in my friend circle i have a palio sport 1.2, petra 1.6 also.
        we have swift/alto/chevy/indica etc in the family but nothing has ever come near the fiat especially on a highway. you can cruise on 100-110 and wouldnt even notice !

        problems: brakes fade fast (it is a heavy car). headlights are not very powerful (you can upgrade for 1200 Rs). tyres have to be upgraded with wider ones.

        All fiats behave the same way – press clutch fully to change gears. it is sluggish and heavy but it will pick up speed smoothly and take my word – you can beat every car in the lane in a straight line and would still feel planted on the road, body is almost zero.

        if you get a fiat dead cheap, know for sure that it has got some major problems – dont take it.

        better luck next time.

        Regards,
        Suno Chacko

      • Hi Venkat,

        Its all about how maintain, vehicle’s have the same logic.

        Its all how we use and how we maintain.

  13. @ Investindore.

    2003 model with only 30000 kms is slightly fishy.

    1. Check the tyres. 30000 kms means that it should have original tyres made in 2003 ! Tyre life on a well maintained Palio is around 50000 Km for a set of 4 with regular rotation, alignment & balancing. If not then at least 2 should be original.

    2. Check if speedometer holds steady when driving or wobbles. Wobbling means tampered odo meter. Try resetting the trip meter. A trip meter not working is another sign of tampered odometer.

    3. Check for pedal wear. 30000 Kms means that pedal wear will be minimal. MOre means, vehcile has been driven much more than indicated. There will be substantial wear, especially on the clutch pedal.

    4. Cold start the vehicle after topping up engine oil. Smoke means worn out piston rings and cylinder.

    5. Palio has a service booklet upto 180000 kms. See how many have been used and the dates. Or if it is there at all. Normally a Palio owner goes to authorised service station only as no other mechanic will touch the vehicle.

    1.25 lacs appears to be bit pricy. 1 lac seems reasonable. It was very difficult for me to get a quote of even 1 lac for my vehicle.

    Even though the vehicle is a good performer, many people are not impressed by that.

    Best wishes.

    • Hi,

      I own a Palio 1.2 ELX. What is the recommended tire pressure for the front and rear? I use the original sized tires.

      I get shuddering and juddering of the vehicle especially during the start on the first gear. The car of late has started to shudder when you accelerate on the go from the idle position or when you accelerate after the gear shift.

      Zubair

      • 28-29 for normal load.

  14. hi,dear sir,i just baught palio 1.2 ELX,its condition is great with all new tyres and new battery,systems working good,full insurance,and in new condition,i baught that at 1.2 lacs,i want to know abt its milage and performance,wats the maximam speed of this car? at the price 1.2lac do u think i got this car at good price?i wil wait for ur reply,thank u,

  15. Dear Sir,
    I am the second owner of my Fiat Palio 1.2 petrol, 2002 model. It now has 35000 kms on it. Of late I notice a shudder whenever I am moving off from stop, in both in 1st and Reverse gear. What could this be a symptom of – clutch crying for replacement, or choked throttle line or anything else ?

    Also, the reserve fuel warning indicator, which used to be fairly reliable on level roads, is behaving like its gone mad. It keeps coming on and going off and makes mileage monitoring difficult.

    • Hi, Thanks for visiting my blog.

      1. The shudder may happen due to many reasons, one of them could be clutch wear, but with 35000 kms there is a very small chance of that. 2. Sometimes the shudder may happen if you try to turn while moving off without pressing the throttle, as the power steering hydraulics will draw quite a bit of power away from the wheels. So if you are moving off on ideling and also turning you should give a little bit of accelerator. 3. Reserve needle is not the best way check mileage. try Taknfull to Tankfull. Fill up then set the trip meter to 0, fill up again and see the quanitiy of petrol going in, and divide the kms driven by this number. Reserve needle is any way based on a float inside the tank which may have malfunctioned, or is anyway likely to show differrent readings depending on the level of the vehicle.

      Hope this helps, Regards

      • Hi,

        I own a Palio 1.2 ELX. What is the recommended tire pressure for the front and rear? I use the original sized tires.

        Vehicle has clocked 53000KMs

        I get shuddering and juddering of the vehicle especially during the start on the first gear. The car of late has started to shudder when you accelerate on the go from the idle position or when you accelerate after the gear shift.

        Zubair

      • Dear Mr Zubair,

        Thanks for visiting my blog.  1. I dont remember how much I used to fill in my tyres, but from other owners I have come to know that 32 in front and 30 psi in the rear is quite common. Mostly recommended pressures make the tyre very hard and the ride uncomfortable. You can try experimenting with several combinations go get a fairly comfortable ride. 

        2. The shuddering at take off can be due to several reasons, most common  would be a slipping clutch plate. Either the engagement is not proper or the friction has worn off due to improper usage. You should try to get the clutch serviced.

        Beyond that there can be other reasons such as ECM not being able to maintain required RPMs during takeoff without giving throttle, which is very rare.

        Hope this helps.

        Thanks & Regards

  16. I was getting 12 km in city with AC on and 15-16 km on highway when my 2002 model palio was younger but now wih 51000 km on the clock it is a bit wheezy, i get 13 km/ltr on the highway and 10-11 in town driving in chennai in very heavy traffic. Not bad mileage at all for the excellent feel and comfort it offers. pl. remember that the fiat palio ought to be compared with cars that are about 1100 kgs wt, such as corrolla, octavia,etc and not spindly marutis. you should try hypermiler techniques such as anticipating before braking, gentle acceleration, and coasting etc., though it can be dangerous in heavy traffic. also it is better to drive in lower gears at low speed rather than going into 5th gear and juddering the engine. I once read that ford fiestas have given mileage in excess of 25km/ltr of diesel not by driving in the fifth gear at 90km/hr but in the fourth gear at 50km/hr with slightly high tyre pressure. I was earlier a fanatic hypermiler and used to get 19-21 km/ltr in my 8 year old maruti 800 in chennai city! now i dont bother as it requires too much planning and one cant enjoy the ride that much! look up the word”hypermiler” on the net and be amazed at the things people do, coasting, tailgating, over pressure in tyres, etc!

    • Thank you Mr Leo Johney, I use most of the techniques you have mentioned in your reply. In fact I love driving with planning as I feel more in touch with car, sensitive to each vibration, feedback etc. Infact I am managing 25 to 27 Kmpl in my swift, with Ac on 50% of the time. I would also say that 51000 kms on the odo is no big deal for a Fiat, which gives you service schedule upto 180000 kms. I sold my Palio with 91000 kms on the clock and it was still smooth as a butter. Competent maintenance is very important, which I feel most old Palios are not getting these days.

      Thanks for the comment, I hope there are more poeple who think like you.

       

  17. Hi,

    I just bought a 2002 Nov palio 1.2 elx. I am learning driving in it without much support. Can you just answer my doubts.

    1) what will happen if i press clutch and brake max to stop the vehicle running in 3 rd gear? will it go off?

    2) I just release clutch in 2 nd gear and allow vehicle to move without accelerator. I apply break to stop it almost and then release brakes. what will happen?

    • Dear Prasanth,

      Thank you for visiting my blog. Your doubts reflect that maybe you are still new to driving, but nevertheless here is my take on them.

      1. Ideally if you press the brake in 3rd gear or any gear for that matter the engine should not switch off. If it does there may be a problem in the clutch sensor. This is easy to rectify with a replacement. Clutch sensor send a signal to engine ECU/ EMU. about the clutch position.  A defective unit will send a signal that the clutch is fully depressed, whereas actually there may still be some friction, which switches of the engine like in older cars without ECU/ EMU.

      All cars with ECU/ EMU will try to maintain the idle RPM even if A pedal is not depressed. So even there is a small load ECU/ EMU will try to keep the engine running at 900 RPM, which can be felt in a slight acceleration as you let in the clutch in 2nd gear without pressing the A pedal. Even if you apply more load by depressing the brake slightly and releasing it, you should feel a slight surge as the ECU/ EMU tries to maintain 900 rpm and tprevent an engine stall. However if the brake application is hard enough the engine will stall. This I think takes care of your 2nd query.

      Regards

      • Thanks for ur reply.

        Am getting better behind the wheel. Now I dont think am getting above 9 kmpl. I will strat trying all ur tips soon. i read it once a day so that it stays in mind:)))

      • Keep at it. Its a matter of practice. Good Luck.

  18. Hi,

    I have just bought Fiat Petra 1.2elx model 2002…it is in good condition. I have following queries.

    1. Is Palio 1.2 and Petra 1.2 engine same.
    2. What is the mileage for Petra in city and highways.
    3. Spare parts availability.

    Regards,

    Gaurav

    • Dear Gaurav,

      Thanks for visiting my blog. The answer your queries… 1. Yes the engine of both Palio & Petra 1.2 are the same. 2. Mileage is likely to be less than Palio due to extra weight of the boot, though not much. Of course you can improve the mileage figs by following good driving tips. Also it may depend as to which city you are driving in. 3. Spare parts are common with palio. Though again availabilty can be erratic and you may have to scout the flea markets in case of critical requirements. In major metros like Mumbai & Delhi, B’lore where this car was quite common the availability may be better.

      Hope this answers your queries.

      regards

      • Thank you, friend…

  19. I have a used palio 1.9D 2004 very well maintained and covered 1 lac kms. I have some queries as a new palio owner
    1 What is the optimum Tyre pressure for maximum mileage for tubeless tyres when filled with nitrogen?
    2 When i shifted up to 5th suddenly throttle goes past to 30. Why?
    3 What precautions to be taken care of for a diesel palio?
    Expecting your invaluable comments

    • I have very little experience with the diesel version of the car, though your queries can be answered as follows.
      1. Tyre pressure with nitrogen should be the same as with normal air. However I do not see any advantage in filling nitrogen for day to day driving.

      2. I could not understand your second query, probably you are chianing into 5th too soon and the engine rpm goes below 900 rpm, when the ECU will kick in and increase the throttle slightly, which you might feel as a sudden surge at times.

      3. I am not very sure about precautions about what, but the bsaics of car maintenence are the same. Service regularly and do not push the vehicle hard for a good fuel economy.

      Hope I have been able to satisfy you.

  20. i am going to buy 2008 fiat palio stile 1.1 slx. asking price 2 L Pls. suggest is it worth or not ?

    • Cant Say. Fiat Stile is a watered down version of the old Palio 1.2. So you have a very puny engine lugging that 900 Kg Hatch. If you are buying a Palio then it should be some fun, which I think the Stile 1.1 lacks. You can probably go in for a more drivable car such as a swift petrol, which I think you may get for the same price.

      • swift,tata etc and so many manufactures round the globe use the same fiat engine…….!just ask ur maruthi dealer…………..!

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  22. Hi
    I am the second owner of a 2003 1.2 Palio Sports; it has done just below 40K kms. It is sparingly used and we beleive it gives us ~10km/l. I am unsure if we can put all the lovely suggestions into practice as I do have a bit of road rage, accelerate and brake often etc. But lets see how it goes 🙂
    Are there any true benefits of changing air filter (K&N) and muffler that I have read somewhere?
    Thanks.

    • Hi Sridhar,

      Thanks for visiting my blog. All the best for your efforts on getting a higher mileage.K&N Air filters and mufflers essentially allow your engines to breath easier allowing for a slight increase in power and thereby improved economy, by saving on the effort it requires to suck in the air through all the meshing/ filters and channels of a conventional air cleaning system. However these filters may allow little bit more of dirt and dust to enter the engines thereby decreasing the engine and Lube Oil Life.

      If they are so great then all the OEMs should be fitting them but they are not as there is a compromise. But if you dont care if your engine dies out at 2 lac Kms or 3 lacs as long as you can have a kick out of it, while you have the car then it is a good choice. In Fiat though with a puny 1.2 Ltr engine and a measley 72 Horses to pull, at normal drivng speeds you will not notice the difference in power only when the the RPM starts to reach near the red line, you may feel some extra surge.

      Regards

  23. Dogstail,

    I faced a problem with palio 1.2 elx. Whe I stop the car in signal or traffic block and then take it in first gear and slowly raises the car jumps(shakes a lot). i had a an embarassing trip to drop my parents to railway station. While coming back I filled petrol and then the car was smooth. Then I remembered that I had this problem always when the fuel indicator show below a quarter of the tank. But again it dont always dont when the tank is nearing empty. i assume its something about claning teh tank or petrol injection or cleaning the fuel path. Can you guide me on how to detail the service guys?

    • Dear Prasanth,

      Thanks for visiting my blog.

      The problem may not be the injection of fuel system. If there is any blockage in fuel lines or injection system your car will stall and you will get all kinds of warning lights on the dash.

      The problem seems to be of w worn out clutch, which finds it difficult to bite when the engine is cold however things improve as the engine warms up and momentum is built up. Again it may not happen always depending on the amount of clutch let in each time you start and the load factor on the vehicle. THe load factor may wary as per the actual payload, gradient, road condition, tyre pressure, AC bearings, wheel bearings, handbrake not disengaging properly, brakes not disengaging properly etc…..But the vehicle should still be able to pull if it has an OK clutch.

      Probably your vehicle has had some mileage put on the clock and needs a clutch service.

      Hope this helps, however I am no mechanic and it will be advisable to contact a qualified Fiat Mechanic.

      Regards

      • Thanks for the reply Ajith. Now its smooth even when i start in the morning with above enough petrol. The problem surface only when tank is about to dry.. ie some 5-6 litres left.

        Above all i drove half distance with comfort. Problem arose in second half when petrol went below a level.

        One of my friends told that the previous owner might have changed the petrol output valve from the tank to a little above than normal height so that it dont use the petrol that level. He says it can be done by a mechanic. Is there a possibility for that?

        After talking to you now I have some interest in cars which was not my subject earlier. :))

      • It may be possible to increase the suction level of the fuel pump. Though I do not see any reason for doing that.The fuel pump of the Palio is a submersible type and is actually located inside the tank, and the suction is located just above the bottom. The tank is also vapour sealed, which means that petrol vapours do not escape the tank and aid in providing a pressure head to the fuel pump.

        It is advisable that you should give the vehicle a thorough look over by a competent mechanic. Dont worry Palio is a very competent car, since the units are getting older and generally do not have good maintenace support, such chronic problems are often reported, which actually turn out to be small issues.

        Happy Motoring!

  24. Hi,

    i read ur column on the Palio 1.2 and felt nice about the nice things u wrote about the car..i had to share this recent experience of mine and also seek ur opinion..

    I had brought my first car a Palio 1.2 elx, 2001 model with abt 30k on the odo..in the 2008. been driving it regularly since then in Mumbai where i live.. occasionally had nice drives to nearby places like Pune / nashik as well..

    since about last 4 months back cold starts became a problem, would need ample A pedal and a 30secs to a minute to get to a health idling to move off the block. the injector light had come one as well…in the beginning intermittently and b 2-3 weeks later was constantly on. the mechanic i depend on , then told me the light is an indicator of some small/major issue in the circuits which can be detected on an Analyser at a Fiat ASS. i was not convinced about the ASS and let the issue be as it was only an issue of cold starts.

    3 weeks back, we were driving off with full payload ( 5 adults and 2 infants) , within about 20 kms of run, with the AC on and the midda sun above the car suddenly started to stall…i could fell the RPM drop drastically and the car helplessly slowing down. i pulled over and the car engine completely died..would not crank up again…

    i tried my luck with the local mechanics available around on the highway..but had to leave the vehicle behind that day. I decided to get it to the ASS and handed it over after a few days to the FIAT ASS at Navi Mumbai.

    this is what they did:
    Replaced the spark plugs ( were ver old, i suspect of 2001 vintage)
    replaced a fuse ( 40amps)
    Engine tune up

    the Analyzer report pointed to ‘check injector circuit’, hence the guys at the ASS only cleaned the injectors and changed the plugs.

    When i went to collect the vehicle,the injector light was still on and i asked again for a check on the Analyser, which then showed check radiator fan circuit…since i had changed the fan motor 2 months back because of a broken shaft, the guys at ASS manually overrode the injector warning light and i collected the vechile back.

    2 days later i was back into a similar situation, Midday sun, 30 kms thru city traffic, AC on, full payload ( 4 adults) , the engine refused to rev up, when the lights turned green at the signal. i could not move forward in 1st gear, even after shutting off the AC. i asked the family to take a cab, and managed to move the car with the constant attempts to crank ( read key turned up as much possible constantly) . I believe the car was moving at a crawling pace in 1st gear due to the initiative of the starter motor and NOT of the power from the combustion engine.

    after a about 10 mins of cooling off…the car was revving up again, and i could drive it back the 30kms to the FIAT ASS.

    this is the funn part now..

    the guys at FIAT tell me that since this problem arose during a extremely heated condition and max paload, the can determine the problem only under such similar condition, which cannot be simulated at the garage..their expert opinion was : 2 probable causes 1) weak starter motor 2) faulty battery, which might provide lower than necessary current when heated.

    both points were not convincing enough and i went to the friendly neighborhood mechanic, who promptly diagnosed it as a weak fuel pump. i brought into the idea as the battery was only 2.5 years old and seemed healthy enough and i had it check as well and as for the starter motor, why should it be responsible for a running motor to stall??

    the Fuel pump unit was not readily available and was estimated to cost approc 16.5k, so i settled for the cheaper option to replace the feul pump motor within…managed to source an almost similar make , made by Bosch ( i was happy to put in a Bosch component anways).

    i just collected the car a few hours back and have yet to test it with full payload and AC on in city traffic, but the initial feedback is the car feels like it is now Turbo charged compared to what it was with the older stock fuel pump..

    even with the AC on, the car is very rev happy and torquey..:-)))

    do you think the problem was with the fuel pump deliver inconsistent/lower pressure ?? could not verify if the old fuel pump was actually weak.

    thanks in advance to reading my bit and sharing ur opinion..

    and kudos for for efforts with sharing ur gyan with fellow palio lovers..

    best regards

    john

    • was this rectified with changing fuel pump?

      • yes, been many months now and never recurred..

  25. hi, sir ,
    i am having fiat palio petrol 1.2 elx -year 2001
    my car got over heated pl give me suggesion
    i am waiting for ur replay

    • Dear Mr Amol,

      Over heating can have only many causes. There could be a problem with the cooling system of the engine. Either there is no coolant or coolant is not getting properly circulated, or radiator fan is not operational. Also the engine might heat up quickly if you are using poor quality oil, low oil pressure etc. It is my advice to get the car checked through a competent mechanic. Over heating can result in engine seizure, which can destroy the engine.

      Regards & Thanks for visiting my blog.

    • Boss man I had same problem with my Palio… N i got it fixed… just service ur radiator and make sure ur water pump is in good health… both won’t cost u more than 1000 bucks… cheers….

  26. dear sir,
    thanks 4 ur quick replay.
    i showen my car to machnic he told me
    1.ur rediator is choke up
    2. u have 2 get engine down – ur one of cilender my not be working, change the piston ring it cost you 25000/-
    pl advise me what to do now ,should i take second opinion.

    • Dear Mr Amol,

      Your Radiator indeed might be choked up, which is why your car is heating up. Ask the mechanic to clear the radiator and tell him you will do the rest of the work later on.

      Normally cylinder stops firing when the cylinder wears out and oil scraper ring is no longer able to prevent oil entering the combustion chamber. This oil gets sprayed onto the spark plug, which then stops firing.

      However to know if this is the case, get the oil in you car topped up. The defect will initially show up as smoke during starting and later one cylinder will stop firing and engine will give a chugging sound, and will lose power dramatically. If these things are not happening then do not worry. Get your radiator repaired and drive along.

      Regards

  27. dear sir,
    thanks for ur replay.I am very disturb ,i forget to say u one more thing ,machinc told me there is oli on my cars spark plug because of that spark plug is not work it is simtones of that ur one of ur cylinder is not working. pl tell me how can i take care of my car & get exra milage

    • Dear Mr Amol,

      If one of your cylinders is not firing then the only solution is to go in for a reboring of cylinder and rebuilding the engine, which is a costly process. Ask if the problem can be solved for some time by changing only the piston rings.

      Meanwhile carry out self testing as per my previous reply and see if the mechanic is telling the truth.

      Regards

  28. Dear sir,
    my palio 1.9 d 04 is an excellent crusader had a very small crack on the upper layer of the windscreen by stone pelting. could you please tell me that is it can be repaired? if so do you know any such workshop near calicut.
    regards
    Baiju.

    • Dear Baiju,

      No the wind screen crack cannot be repaired. The Glass has to be changed in case it is difficult to use. There was a TVS authorised Fiat workshop in Calicut, but I dont know if it is still there. It will be better if you enquire locally,

      Regards

  29. Dear sir,
    i get service my car three days before i had change the engin oli,
    clean my rediator .
    now the problem is my AC not getting cool,
    the AC mechanic advice me to replace the compresor arount 13k
    is compresor repaireable &wher in mumbai pl advice me,if i run my car without ac,how i run my car without ac in raine season.

    • Dear Mr Amol,

      Compressors are repairable. I would not know of an exact place to go in Mumbai, but you can ask around a bit. Mumbai of all the places has all the facilities if you look around.

      Running car without AC also should not be a problem.

      Regards

  30. Hi,

    I am planning to buy a used Palio (1.2 Sport – Jan 2003 Model / Silver / 29000Km)
    Car is in good condition , Tyers were never changed since the car was bought. Car has new battery. Seller is asking 1.40 Lacs non negotiable. I find it high for 8 year old car.

    I am bit confused whether to got for it or not. Please help me.

    Thanks in advance.

    • Dear Mr Sundar,

      Palio is a good car, but is nearing the end of its life cycle. Spare parts are difficult to get and Tata service is no good.

      You can get better used swifts petrol or any other car for that kind of money. 

      Moreover 29000 odometer seems to be a bit low for an 8 year old car. Check the dates stamped on the tyres, match the tyre serial numbers with the owners manual. Check wear on clutch and brake pedals. Top up oil and cold start. In spite of these checks, 1.4 Lacs is a bit too much. It should not sell for more than 50-60 K, given the amount of joy still left in the car, before you will have to junk it.

      Thanks & Regards

  31. Hi. i am proud owner of Sienna 1.2 Petrol my car gives me a mileage of 8 kmpl. Can you advise me how I can improve the mileage and what the fiat company has given the mileage to fiat sienna.

    • HI, Abdul,

      All the pointers are already there in the article. Kindly refer. Fiat actually does not claim any mileage figures on any literature website….which is the beauty, because they know that the figs are not particularly good.

      regards

  32. hi,
    sir i am having fiat palio Elx 2001,my car ac is not working ,if i run my car in raine season it cought with fog on my class i cant drive the car pl give me the solution

    • You will have to show the AC to a competent mechanic. Normally there are seperate workshops specailising in AC repair. Wind screen will fog from inside due to condensation of your own breaths and from outside due to condensation of moisture on a cold glass. A working Ac/ Heater should solve the problem of inside condensation. Condensation from outside can be solved by directing warm air on the windscreen.

      regards

  33. hi .
    I have a fiat palio 1.2 elx 2002 model . 1 wk back my engine over heated . I showed it to local mechanic who told me that fan motorand fan has gone also engine oil is coming in radiator so there is gasket to be changed engine head has to be repaired and general servicing has to be done after all the work done i am getting the car with increased noise and vibration pls help me

    • Vibration & noise is a very difficult problem to diagnose and very difficult without a competent mechanic. For starters check coolant level, oil level etc, weather all the components removed during servicing like radiator, cylinder head etc have been fixed properly, then you can go on to deeper levels to check ignition timings, camshaft alignment, drive-belt tension etc. There is no ready made solution and will have to be investigated by a competent person.

      Best Wishes & Regards

  34. Sir, I am a new second owner of a 2002 model palio 1.2 sport model. Petrol consumption seems to be 10 -11 kmpl. the car has company option LPG. I hear that use of LPG & petrol intermittently reduce mileage furthur. Can i use LPG without fear? or in mix up fashion? advice.

    • Dear Mr Mustafa,
      Using LPG per se is not problematic. You should ideally use a conversion kit from a reputed manufacturer. LPG will give you lesser mileage per Ltr, but that will be compensated in rupee terms. Start your car with petrol, and after the engine is warm switch to LPG. LPG generates more residual heat. Most Car cooling systems find it difficult to cope with under heavy loads, but under normal conditions it should not be a problem.

      Hope this has been of assistance.

      happy motoring.

  35. I just bought a Palio NV 1.2 ELX 2004 model today. There is no other car I could think of when I had to consider a standby car which provides awesome power with such an immaculate engine and superbly built body.

    • Couldnt agree more with you zubair.

  36. hi,
    i am having palio 1.2 elx ,2001.mumbai
    pl give me advise that cng i suitable for my car ,
    wht is tne maintainnace cost after fitting cng.
    waiting for ur repaly

  37. hello sir i am planning to buy a fait palio diesal 2003 model fully lodeed and even with abs,,,, which is run around 80000 to 90000 in blore city….they are first owner and there telling price is 180000 and negosiable…what it will be right asking price for me …? and one more thing if i get this this will be first car for me and what it will be good for me to go for it…? just waiting for your suggestion ………..thankning you sir

  38. I bought a 2002 model Palio which has done 90k kilometers in 2010 for 1.25L since i was not able to find any Maruti cars for this budget and am happy to be associated with the Fiat family. I use my car for just 150 to 200 kms in month and so far do not have any problems, most of the people i met, friends and mechanic told me that you have made a wrong choise and it had an impact in my mind, but over a period of time i found out that these were individual perceptions and may or may not be true until you experience and go through it. I am very happy about my selection of a Fiat Palio though it gives me 10 kmpl in city and 13.5 kmpl on highways it does not bother me since i compromise on the shere pleasure and comfort of driving a Fiat engine. Also the car is a beast when compared to the other hatch backs in its looks with its alloy and leather seats in place and for its weight crawls like a tiger waiting for a leap in city traffic. I have checked with a lot of Palio owners and till date i have not found one complaining about their car. My perception about Fiat is that a bad word or mouth is being spread among people who have not experienced the Palio car and this will definitely stop once they have their hands on this car.

    • Very true derrick. Have fun with your palio.

    • IF you love to drive and don’t bother about maintenance, then you will be happy with palio, an international car. If regularly maintained in authorised service centre, ihen nothing beat the art to drive. The driver seat comfort is luxurious with an excellent lumbar support. Care your car peroperly, she will never let you down. All the most it is 10 times safer than maruti in its tank like design. If you get a chance to Palio 1.9 diesel/ 1.6 GTX, then you can feel the real power

      • Thanks baiju, you have completely hit the nail on the head.

  39. i am being offered a palio 2003 model 60 km run. red color…havent seen that, but about to see that lady in red in a day or two….not been used for quite a few time.. asking price is 55k.. tell me if its a good deal..i just need a car for an occassional rides and some out of city trips, just be using 5-6 times in a month with averager un of 200-300 kms per month…tell me if its a gut choice ….and also what are the things that should be taken care of while inspecting the car…pls. give me quick tips as i m visiting the owners home on the day after tomorrow….

    • checkout service records if available for parts replaced. Check the clutch for any leakage of oil. The timing belt is near to change. Do a test drive shift the gears up when RPM meter reads 20, put on lights and full AC and blow horn so that u can estimate what is left in battery. Regarding handling and safety & road grip Palio is the best bet. The rate also is good. Take the car on a ramp and inspect underbody, especially oil sump portion & crankcase. Then all usual items may be looked into. good liuck & happy ride

      • thnx. baiju..car is not used for quite a few time so battery may not work i guess…i will be changing the battery if i buy this and will be doing that irridium plugs and synthetic oil change too…but all i m worried about is the engine….how to check that and finally the remaining life of other parts(power windows, steering, electricals) as this is 9 year old car and…and some parts might be needed to change then and getting spares for this palio is really a tuff job then…just wanna make sure i should not be in that situation..

      • Dr. Baiju has been most accurate. If the Car has not been used for some time, it does not mean that the battery may not work. A session on an external charger will make is usable enough before your Car dynamo starts charging it.

        Synthetic oil may not be of much use given the running you are expecting. Also Oil performance depends a lot on the oil filter, which is a conventional one in the Palio, hence you may not get full benefits of a synthetic oil.

        Spare parts of Palio are a problem, though stuff is available in major cities in flea markets. Engine should not be an issue after only 60000 Kms. If the car has been used gently then steering and suspension also should not be a problem. Palio cooling motor was reputed to give some issues. Check if the cooling fan is working after running the car for some time, you can hear the cooling fan running. The noise should not be too much, that indicates worn cooling motor bearings. 

        You may also check brake performance by braking hard on a level road. The front wheels should skid and the car should maintain a straight line. If not front brakes are worn.

        Palio comes with a hydraulic steering. Check for leakages from steering oil ducts and power steering servo pump.

        Otherwise the car is reliable enough to run reliably even with some problems given the running you expect it to. I once drove around 100 Kms with a leaky cooling system, by just nursing the car along at low rpm where even the forced air flow is sufficient to cool the engine within limits.

        Then 50 K is not too much money. Best wishes on your purchase and thanks for visiting my blog.

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      • thnx. for ur help guys….

      • if you want to check engine condition, either rev the engine to maximum for a minute or 2 or drive it for 2/5 kms, then pick out the oil dip stick, if fumes are coming out then you need to worry. But normally You know the fiat engines are well known for reliability and durability, Many tata and maruti cars running on fiat engine usually have 180000 kms warranty. Few sensors may appear faulty for a 9 nine year old car, which are available in market.

  40. Amazing information is found on this Blog regarding Fiat Palio cars. Thanks for precious Knowledge. I have read all the comments on this blog since beginning which took almost 3 days for me read completely. Thanks.

    I am planning to buy a second had Palio 1.2 Elx 2002 Silver/single owner with ODO 54,000 Kms on it. 4 tyres are good with Gas Kit & Tank fitted in 2009(not used much though). Seller is asking 90K as he is not using this car for more than 4-5 months. Since i stay in Bangalore & it is mysore registeration car. Keeping in mind the Cars in Karnatak are bit costly than other states like Mumbai. Please help me what would be the good deal for me to go for it or not. If yes what would be the ideal price.

    • Dear Mr Ashivin Khan,

      Thanks for visiting my blog. 90 K is a bit too much for a 10 year old car, with serviceability issues. However B’lore has more palios than other cities and the situation there might be different. I think you will have to plan out how many years you plan to keep the vehicle and whether it can be maintained economically during that period. Rest is your own judgement. In my view Palio is an excellent car whose time is more or less coming to an end. 

      If your need is purely transportation then you may add a little bit more money and buy a a Maruti. If you are an enthusiast then there is no substitute less than 7 Lakhs.

      Regards

      ________________________________

  41. Thank your Mr. (May i know your name Plz)
    I am planning to keep for 1 or two years depending on the problems given by car. If the car is smooth & with no problems i am planning to keep for long term & if not may be sell it in 1 or 2 years. Regarding maintaining economically i am planning to use the Gas Kit ( i hope it will not give any problems running on Gas ). My need is more transportation & less Palio Enthusiast ( i love the design). Even if i go for Maruthi i dont think i will get a good Swift (Petrol) in my Budget (1 Lk). So what to do i am in Dilemna. I love this car which is in my budget but afraid thinking of service issues i will face later. What would be the max price i can pay to this car suppose if go for it? There is one more car for sale in Olx plz chk this link http://bangalore.olx.in/fiat-palio-1-2-elx-for-sale-iid-350716219 he is asking min 85k. What do you say?

    • Enquire about the maintenance history of the car. In the case of palios, how it is maintained is very imprtant. You will get a poorly maintained one rock cheap. When using Gas try the first start in petrol or run atleast 10 kms in petrol for every 100 if u r running long distance regularly. The design is of international and never let u down only problem is spares are costly.

    • Dear Mr Khan,

      If you like the car give it a thorough go  over. Drive the car hard, over rough surfaces, brake hard, hold the car in a full turn for 2-3 rounds. Listen for any unusual sounds.The car itself will tell you if it needs any immediate replacement. 

      maintaining it for another 1-2 years should not be a problem.

      Have fun.

      ________________________________

  42. Thankyou Baiju & Dogstail. I will update on this ASAP. His comprehensive insurance is expired last month. & he is not coming down from 80k. I tried the car & liked it. its good. especially Engine, Magwheels & tyres (Brand new only 3 months old).

  43. The deal was done at 80k and seller wanted to deliver the car on next day, but then he suddenly cancelled the sale of his car. Car was good though……

  44. Since this deal is cancelled. There is another Palio ELX 2002 (Gas Kit & Tank fitted) in Mysore. But it is been stalled for many months & not in running condition now. First owner silver colour 54k Kms ODO. If i buy this car what all i need to do in the biginning so that it should run smoothly & not give any problems in Long drives since this is been standing for long time that too not in shed. Battery & Tyres are new but no Magwheels. What would be the correct price for me to buy this car? & how much would be the expenditure to make this car in smooth running condition? please guide me on this. This car is in Mysore now & i stay in Bangalore.

    • Dear Mr Khan,

      Since the car is not running since a long time (not specified), it needs to be started and made to run before anything can be ascertained. You may please find out why the car was not being run as it is having a Gas kit, so petrol prices and low mileage cannot be a reason.

      In my opinion you need to steer clear of a vehicle which has not been running till the day it was sold for unspecified reasons.

      Even if you get it cheap, you may have to spend more than the cost in getting it back on its wheels.

      Regards

      ________________________________

  45. This car is not been used as Owner is quite rich & having a Scorpio, Santro & Innova at home to use as he is a construction person. This is the reason i am being told but i dont know how to find if it is true or false as owner is telling he will not service & give the car in running condition. The buyer has to do it. Honestly speaking he doesnt care if the car is sold or standing in front of his house. He is not selling coz need of money but simply coz car is wasted with no use. The car may be in good condition or bad. How to find that?

  46. I think the car is not being used for 5 – 6 months.

  47. What do you all think about Ford IKon car. 1.3 & 1.6, is it good, bad, ok manageable?

    • FOrd Ikon is a good balanced car and good ford service. 1.3 is a tad underpowered, and 1.6 is a bit on thirsty side. The engines are a bit low tech, but that does not matter much. It should do well with a Toroidal LPG kit, which will not cut on the boot space. 

      Again all used cars need to be subjected to a thorough grounding to isolate any immediate concerns.

      Best of luck in your search.

      ________________________________

  48. I am getting a used fiat palio 1.2 ELX 2002 model driven little more than 1L kms for 45K.

    will it be a good deal in 2012?

    Should I go ahead?

  49. If it is a single owner & driven only on Petrol (not Gas) & maintained well throughout & if your location is not coastal side (no corrosion effect on the metal) then i think this is the best deal. I had asked for a 1.2 Elx 2002 single owner 54k Genuine Km running with Lovato LPG kit for 80K but the owner asked 1 lakh. So i cancelled of buying it. Yes my place is Bangalore & here the cars are bit costly.

  50. I recently bought Fiat Palio 1.2 ELX 2006 model for 1.5 L. Which was run 53000 KM from Carnation. The car is in good condition and I am getting mileage of 9.3 KMPL. Its only few days I got the car and completed 540 KMs as of now. The only issue I am facing in rain is that the Wiper won’t work properly. Some time they function normally suddenly they accelerate adn we stop them they stop abruptly in the mid of the screen. As of now I hvan’t tested it in the long distances. Otherwise I felt vehicle is very good .

    • Dear Crazyb,

      The issue is nothing serious and can be rectified at any competent mechanic. Enjoy your ride.

      Regards

      ________________________________

  51. my palio in 2001 so it was starter problem

  52. Hi . I am having fiat siena 1.2 elx and I must say fiat company has given the powerfull and comfort car. I want to know my car accelarate a bit high and when I remove the small pipe like how we have for petrol next to PCM the acceleration goes to normal and again if I connect its goes high..can you help me what is that part and how can I solve the issue. Thanks

    • Dear Mr. Abdul,

      I have sold my fiat 4 years ago, hence will not be able to help you on that. It is better that you contact some competent mechanic on the issue. 

      Regards

      ________________________________

  53. Hi all
    I own fiat palio 1.2EL 2003 model,The car is giving mileage of 4klm per liter petrol in city without AC what is the problem and what is the solution,any body can help me to come out with this situation.
    I have just change the engine oil,air filter,spark plug,Injector throttle body cleaning done and still its giving me 4klm per liter.

    Rahib

  54. HI my name is vinay i have just bought a fiat palio 1.2 el 2002 model in 50k it has cng kit there problem is that the self is not working properly it is taking a load when i was starting a engine 2nd thing the i was repairing the whole engine from a machine with new cluch plates rings every thing the problem is that he was saying me that the piston is in very good condition and i am also not finding it a orignal new piston so what i do as i go with a mechaine or search for new piston plzz help me out

  55. @dogstail

    Greeting for the day my friend.

    I have a 2003 fiat palio 1.2 elx (petrol) and the performance is an absolute delight. infact for me the sheer joy of its performance and response overpowers my worry about it’s fuel economy… the second reason for this was, well, the petrol was coming out of my father’s pocket.

    What i need to ask is that because now I would be the one shelling out the money for the petrol (which in these times is a ripper) wouldn’t it be better if I get my car’s ECU remapped??

    according to the research i’ve done; i’ve found out that with the computer reprogrammed and gotten rid of the speed limiter and rev limiter info, i wouldn’t only get a better throttle response but also increase fuel efficiency by 15-20% on my naturally aspirated motor.

    And if you have any info on where to get it done would be just the cherry to to the cake… FYI i’m based in delhi…

    Thanks

    • Dear Mr Vishal,

      Thanks for visitin my blog. ECU remap for a Fiat Palio will be very difficult. I dont know of any reliable supplier who has a tried and tested remap for the palio. Experimentation may result in permanent corruption of the software or even damaged ECU. Some imported remaps are available but mostly in Bangalore and Chennai.

      If you want a better fuel economy and power it is better to go in for modification in breathing by installing free breathing air filters such as K&N and Free Flow exhausts. That itself will improve performance by upto 10%.

      There is no speed limiter in a Palio. There is a rev limiter but that kicks in only when you redline the engine. Switching off a rev limiter will entail reprogramming but then that should not affect the throttle response, also it may damage the engine.

      Hope this helps. Enjoy your Palio.

      Regards

      ________________________________

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  59. Hi,
    I read this entire blog and its fantastic. I bought a palio 1.2 nv 2006 july 43k in odo with almost worn out tyres for 80k. I drove it for about 1000 kms in city and I found some problem with its front suspension. My service man told lower arm needs to be replaced. I replaced both the lower arms and both struts. It Took 16k. Now the ride is good and I decided to change all tyres. I changed the original 165/80/13 to 185/65/14(bought a set of used alloys) Michellin xm2. after spending 40k I am enjoying the ride its really a dream machine. For about 2000 kms there is no problem at all and I am getting 10.6 in city and 17 in highways(tested in 80-90kmph and not beyond 100 sometimes) including hills. Is this a good deal? I prefer to drive mostly for outing, and would like to keep this for 2 yes.FYI this is my fifth car. I sold my Estilo 2007 for 145000 which have done 70k in odo. I am getting spares online for my palio. Price so reasonable and I have a good mechanic too. If anybody want to service your palio I will help you visit at reasonable cost.

    • Hi jagdev

      Could you pls send me online spare part information.

      Thanks

      Rahib
      Sent on my BlackBerry® from Vodafone

      • Hi rahib,
        Its http://WWW.99rpm.com

        Enjoy with OE spares

        Jaggy

    • Great, enjoy your Palio.

      ________________________________

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    idea of a user in his/her mind that how a user can be aware of it.
    So that’s why this article is outstdanding. Thanks!

  61. Convert it to carbuerator version …

  62. I own a fiat 1.2 elx 2002 model, I recently had a problem with my high pressure pump.I could not find a replacement and eventually had to modify my tank to facilitate a universal pump it workd though my tank gauge dosn function anymore.. but now now um having problems with my engine., its over heating and my engine loses power. I can not evn move the car even in the 1st gear..I asked around and people told me it could be a gasket but there ar no symptoms of oil in the radiator or water in the sump. can a broken water pump cause this cz I replaced the spark plugs and universal pump but still the car can not move..please help

    • Over heating is usually because of cooling problems. water pump also maybe an issues, or clogged radiator lines. A competent mechanic will be able to help you.

      These days Fiat is reviving their own dealer network.

      Thanks & Regards

      ________________________________

      • thanks buddy, also wanted to ask does the engine have a sensor that cuts off the engine in the event that its over heating??

      • Unfortunately, there is no sensor to stop the engine in case of overheating. But there will be ample warnings before actual seizure in the form of loss of power and valve chatter.

        ________________________________

  63. hi
    My name in Rahib ,
    I have an small problem with my Palio 1.2 2003 could you please help me how can i solve the problem of temperature gauge its showing 3/4 when i stuck in traffic, when the fan start the gauge is going upward then slowly going down , but when its in running its goes down.there is no signal of heating engine.
    I have cleans my radiator also.

    I love my car..

    Thanks and regards

  64. hie,
    well i have good news. i discoverd that the reason why my engine was losing power and overheating was because of wrong timing. My crankshaft gear for timing was offpitch because the hlafmoon that connects the gear to the crankshaft is broken

    • Nice to know that the problem was diagnosd at an early time. Enjoy your vehicle.

      Regards

      ________________________________

  65. i m searching for speedometre sensor for my fiat siena elx. Can you guide me?

    • 2000 model. my cell number is 9998039548

  66. Hi,
    i’m a fresher in the field of motoring and i have been on the lookout for a second hand car . After a considerable amount of hunting , I spotted a 2002 model fiat palio 1.2 (full option) priced at 95000 rupees. The vehicle has completed only 52000kms and this is exactly what i’m worried about ,as it seems too less a mileage for a 11-year old vehicle.The dealer is a mechanic and i have a feeling the odometer may have been tampered with(just a thought!).Please suggest the set of steps i need to carry out to ensure that all aspects of the vehicle mainly perfomance and reliability are thoroughly inspected and evaluated. Also isn’t the price tag a little too steep?
    Please let me know what you think ,as i have very minimal experience in this field.

  67. Hi guys i have palio 2003 1.2 EL i have recently change radiator, Water Pump Spark plug,spark plug cable, Thermoswitch. The car start jerking and the firing has been changed. Mechanic said one cylinder in not working properly. The mileage before above said replacement was 16-17 Km/pl now i am getting only 10Km/Pl on highway. Kindly help me no come out from this. There is no oil in coolant.

    Rahib

  68. fiat palio In gas fitting means what is the mileage can give please help me

  69. @arsath. With Gas fitting you may get around 15 to 16 Km per Kg. I hope you are taking about Auto LPG.

    • Hi
      I bought 2003 palio 1.2 elx for 81k with 62k on odo the vehicle has good battery and 70% tyres body line is excellent not even a single dent or scratch, jvc system which can play mp3 cd fm and has bluetooth, pioneer speakers. Is it a good deal?

      But wiper link and power window switch were not working. Wiper link costed around 1700 and switch 500 in bangalore. Shop keeper said maruti wiper link is only 300. Why such a huge price difference. Are automobiles people cheating us? Is there any shop where i get spare parts for lesser price? I just finished my driving school and still learning on my palio. I managed to get only 4.5 kmpl. Is it a good vehicle to master driving skills. M planing to keep it for 2 years later i go for swift.
      Is purchasing second hand palio to learn is a right decission. Or going for swift and learn. Pls help me

    • I own fz s for the last 4 years and i love my yamaha machine no probs till date. But I don know anything about cars. Pls educate me how to maintain my palio and what and all things I need to check regularls as it is already 11 years old car. I will be the happiest person if I get 10 kmpl in Bangalore city. As of now m getting only 4.5kmpl but the seller said he was getting 13 in Bangalore
      Pls help me, if I don get double digit I can’t keep this vehicle.

      • I know mr dogstail will certainly help me because my questions are about his favorite machine, I read his suggestions and replies, whenever there is a question on palio he is the first one to answer

      • M waiting for suggestions pls ……..

      • M looking for suggestions pls someone reply. Now m getting around 7 kmpl

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  73. Fiat active pallo 2009model is having high volume of fuel consumption assist me please what to do

    • Kindly go through the article, and if you still do not get the results then, it needs to go through the mechanical process. Regards

      • Hi,
        Its good to see that someone is there to care for Fiats.
        Is it possible to slightly underpower 1.6 engine and increase the mileage? 1.6 engine delivers 100bhp

      • Hello, Its possible to remap the ECU so that the quantity of fuel injected goes down. You may search online for ECU remap kits for fiat 1.6. Regards

  74. Awesome blog… kudos to Dogstail… i usually never comment on such blogs.. but this one.. i can’t really close the window without putting a comment.. it would be unfair on my part. I really thank you for giving such a very basic advice which is helpful for many laymen like me, who doesn’t know to DRIVE PROPERLY and who owns a CAR. Thank you again.

    • Finally m getting around 10kmpl in bangalore city after driving around 2000 kms. I got chances to drive alto indica i10 getz and santro believe me nothing can be compared with palio. I started loving my palio most after driving other vehicles. What a confidence and secured feeling it gives. But it is unfortunate that fiat left India. The technology which other manufacturers are using now can be find in 10 years old fiat machines

      • Very NIce. enjoy your Palio. Fiat is still in India. They have started their own dealerships. Regards

      • I am buying fiat palio 1.2 elx 2003 model for rs 28k…is it a good deal?

      • Seems to be a good one. See if you can maintain the thing in your locality. Availability of spares and competent mechanics etc. Regards

      • Thanks sir….I just want to keep it for less than one year…and there is no problem of mechanic and spare parts here…
        Sir, one more think I want to ask tha whether CNG is successful in fiat palio or not?…

      • DEar Sir, CNG needs substantial modification to a vehicle, which may not be worth it given the age of the vehicle. Also since CNG is a more high pressure system it is advisable to avoid after-market fitments. Auto LPG is much safer and cheaper to install as an after market kit and may be your monies worth. Happy motoring.& Regards

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  77. I am driving fiat siena elx petrol 2002. Here i am maintained well engine. Like service and air filter even using always good petrol but very sad to say this i am getting mileage almost hardly 10km without AC. With AC only 3 to 4km. I dnt know wt to do. I am mad about this car. I am not ready to sell also. Please help me to get good mileage with economic way. Plz plz plz help me

    • Dear Mr Naresh, The prblems could be multifarious starting from your driving style to traffic congestions in your city. Please follow the steps to fuel efficient driving as elaborated in the article. Also see if your vehicle is having any unresolved problems from a competent mechanic. If its a pre-used vehicle, it might have suffered some abuse and poor maintenance by previous owners. Regards

  78. hello sir
    i am hasmukh solanki
    i am planning to buy a old 2002 palio with 92k kms in odo. with price of 45k its condition is very good without any scretch. should i buy it?
    and what abut cng kit with palio?? can i install it on plaio 2002
    thanks sir

    • Dear Mr Hasmukh, Thanks for visiting my Blog. At 45000 it is a bit expensive because of current state of maintainability of old Palios. At that price a good swift petrol would be available which you can maintain more easily. CNG modifications can be done by an expert. Regards & Happy motoring.

      • bro is it possible to get maruti swift at 45k???
        and what about palio’s spare parts issues will it be available in ahmedabad. there is a fiat showroom in ahmedabad.

      • Dear Mr Hasmukh, You may get an old Swift petrol somewhere near that price with similar levels of mileage. The spare parts of old Fiat’s FIRE engine are very rarely available with the dealers now and are mostly available in the grey market. Chassis spares like suspension elements, brake pads etc are common with current generation Punto so maybe sourced from the dealers. At current date it is always risky to buy a Palio even for the love of it. I would always go in for a more reliable and maintainable model. Regards

  79. Reblogged this on Kuttanlifeissues and commented:
    Good advice indeed!

  80. May i know what size tyres to use for Fiat Palio 2002 1.2 ELPS? I can’t seem to find the right match.

    • 185/65 R14 would be best option. Otherwise 175/70 R14 should also work. There will be minor variation in Odometer readings, but that should not be a problem. Hope this helps.Regards

  81. Hi,

    I wanted to know, that there is leakage from Petrol Tank when you tank up Petrol for Fiat Palio 1.2 elx 2002. It’s 60.000km driven, very stable on Highways, I love the car, much better than Maruti /Hyundai.

    Regards,
    Himanish


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